Could this be the most ineffective tokenistic gesture in the history of token gestures?! But you have to commend neo-Tory-Labour for being bang on with their brand of announcing things which sound like they're meant to be something good, which then turn out to be the total opposite. Another masterstroke in malevolent incompetence.
The entire”FREEWORLD” is an oxymoron emphasis on moron🫤 In the wisdom of one of my future heros , George Jetson ”JANE ,STOP THIS CRAZY THING!” But seriously its past time for capitulation anymore GENERAL STRIKE NOW EVERYWHERE EVERYONE EVERY MINUTE ‘TILL WE SINK MULTI NATIONAL PIRATE WAR SHIP GENOCIDE
The BRICS is well on the way to de-dollarising and isolating the US and its puppet the UK from world trade. We won't need to go on a general strike, we won't have jobs or pensions.
<< It’s gonna be so awkward when the real death toll in Gaza is announced at 200,000, isn’t it? >>
It may be closer than we realize. As I've mentioned before, the actual numbers are very difficult to establish. Who knows how many bodies are buried beneath the rubble, how many will die of disease, how many will die because of inadequate medical treatment, ...? For what it's worth, *Truthout* cited a letter published in *TheLancet* that suggested a figure of 186,000, and that was two months ago (8 July). Please note that this was NOT peer-reviewed research, but it did come from credible authors. https://truthout.org/articles/researchers-estimate-true-gaza-death-toll-at-186000-or-more/
That 200,000 figure may be right around the corner. Let us hope that the invasion can be halted before that time.
And the UK (maybe with the help of Israel) will do everything possible to ensure that people are not disturbed by events happening in other places such as Gaza. So considerate of them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjwycG_9Ujo
Aw, baby steps towards an arms embargo against an genocidal apartheid state! How cute! And so, SO Democratic.
Incrementalism. It's not the best solution, but let's not let the perfect be the enemy of the good! Now, eat your peas, tighten your belts, and be grateful for the tub the Blinken/Sullivan administration threw to the anti-genocide whale.
Why are they bothering? Anyhow, it was headline news on the BBC, which appears, to me anyhow, to exist in a World totally different from the one I’m in.
Aw,how can you say that. He's a nice diffident guy. He looks like Superman while he's being Clark Kent. I mean anyone could kick sand in his face couldnt they?!!😂😂😜
He's married to a Jewish woman, and you believe that is the basis of his foreign and defense policies. Why not just say that, if you truly believe it? Do you have any evidence of this? Calling someone " a bloody Zionist," and blaming them for a nation's foreign policy....this is what we call unhinged conspiracy theory. Not to mention antisemitic stereotyping. Seems to me his policy is the same as all prior PMs of either party, none of whom had Jewish spouses. That's a pretty big hole in your argument. I don't understand why you can't just say you don't agree with Starmer's policy, maybe give an intelligent reason for why you think he thinks that way, and give some citations so it can be verified. I know my suggested way is a lot harder, but we all know in the end it gets more respect when an argument is honest, straightforward, and supported by facts.
Sounds as though you’re a genocide supporter. You are probably immune from the atrocities perpetrated by the IDF and their minder SatanYahoo and his blatant lies. None of which has any veracity in the real world. Zionist lobby and AIPAC are all controlling and have US, UK and EU in their pockets, but Starmer and Sunak are both preconditioned, the former a Zionist and the latter a Modi sympathiser. Sunak supported Indian arms and personnel export in support of genocide in Gaza.
Hamas don’t want to kill all Jews they just want their land back, it’s Netanyahu who has deep seated murderous intent, perhaps to save his own skin .
It’s pathetic that you’re asking for citations ! Just go and read Ilan Pappe’s books on Ethnic Cleansing of Palestinians over eight decades.
He is an Israeli and a professor of History at a couple of unis including Exeter.
The issue is whether you engaged in bigoted stereotypes. Only a maniac would think questioning a bigoted stereotype supports genocide. Actually, promoting false stereotypes encourages genocide.
You know that Pappe is an outlier whose methodology and conclusions are accepted only by a minority. That's because what he offers are his view of facts, not universally accepted views. It might help if you told which of his books you have read, and what was in those books that you rely on in making the argument that PM Starmer bases his policy on his wife's religion. Because you see, the only thing I have said is that it is racist and bigoted to stereotype, it's dishonest to make allegations without proof. Nothing else. You know that whatever one thinks of Pappe, he never said a word about Mrs.Starmer, and he'd in fact be the first to agree with me that every PM since Churchill held the same views. I don't want anyone fighting, don't want anyone killed, I support a two state solution, despise Netanyahu and it's possible to despise he and Hamas. You can read my posts on Substack and Medium; that's called research, which is a lot harder than popping off mindlessly and making crackpot ad hominem attacks.I draw the line at senseless name-calling, prejudiced stereotyping, making accusations without proof.
You’re inebriated with your own verbosity, to paraphrase Churchill. Whether or not you hate Khamas as well as Netanyahu does not diminish the possibility that our respective experiences of personal encounters with members of the opposing races in question could be fundamentally different. Jews I meet in daily life and professionally have anglicised names and consider dark skinned people especially Muslims as second class. Racism was invented by Judaism via the lovely book of Talmud. According to the Zionists Goyim are savages, only good for raping and slaying.
Look mate, you can try and blind me with your publications and your “knowledge” and verbiage I’m not impressed by you or the likes of you.
I’m a retired GP with BMJ and other publications of in my own name.
(I haven’t got the time or the inclination to reference segments of the following books of Pappe I’ve read. Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine , and Lobbying for Zionism.) It’s quite revealing that you consider him a renegade, and I have already pigeonholed you as an enemy of the innocent Palestinians and a Nakba denier, whether or not you dislike Satanyahoo. So just go away I don’t want any more exchanges with you.
"Jews I meet in daily life and professionally have anglicised names and consider dark skinned people especially Muslims as second class. Racism was invented by Judaism via the lovely book of Talmud. According to the Zionists Goyim are savages, only good for raping and slaying."
If it walks like a Jew hater, talks like a Jew hater, acts like a Jew hater, it's a Jew hater. You're not even trying to hide it.
Just a friendly note to those who support this planned genocide of a people: You can easily be next.
But we have laws that protect us.
They’re only as good as those in power allow them to be. The Geneva Conventions are now toilet paper. War is never declared, just made reality. Even in the ‘civilized’ world xenophobia, intolerance and exclusion are the rule, not the exception, today.
So step carefully those with colored skin tones, women, LGBT+, those not nominally Christian and those with dissenting opinions. When the world is finished with Palestine, you’re next. Don’t scream or whine when it happens. You have been warned.
To be fair, they've immediately suspendend the boom-bang shooty stuff (bullets, misslies. tanks parts etc.) but left the airplane stuff in place. We can't have Israeli jets falling out of the skies, can we? Not perfect, but it is a massive sea-change in political position from the Tories.
"Massive sea- change" is perhaps something of an overstatement. "Very minor moderation" is probably nearer the mark. Israel gets the great bulk of its heavy duty boom-bang shooty stuff from the US and us withholding a small number of items is unlikely to have any impact at all on Israel's ability to pursue their genocide. This is probably more about making a gesture to get voter goodwill in a way that neither upsets our big defence contractors nor impacts their cash flow. It's not a stretch to imagine that the 30-item shamlist has been studied, edited and approved in advance by said parties.
The global, military, industrial complex is profiting massively off the slaughter of children. They will not let go of those profits. Oh yeah, the construction industry is going to be booming too. Remember: War is good for business. Yay capitalism🫠
Let them try! Iran is part of BRICS now- the US will not be able to instal Blackrock/stone or steal fossil fuels from them. Certainly attacking Iran (or China) will be the end of the Empire.
The sea-change is the break from the blind sychophantism towards US policy.
From the Guardian:
The UK has broken with the Biden administration on a significant part of their tightly coordinated policy towards Israel by announcing it is suspending some arms export licences to Israel because of a “clear risk” they may be used to commit or facilitate a serious violation of international humanitarian law.
Lammy goes on to admit he's a 'Liberal Zionist' what ever the f that is. (It's OK to kill 'bad Palestinians', I wonder?!) A position that is absurd and completely disheartening. But it is a massive change from the Tory position in that it recognises the violation of humanitarian law by Israel.
Totally agree with everyone, it is not enough and we must go much further and take stronger action. This war needs to stop. Now.
Lammy grovels before power, and his tribute to the Royals in the House of Commons was stomach-turning, so the Zionists (one can only imagine what they say behind Lammy's back) will welcome another useful idiot. After all, he's already a useful idiot in Starmer's Zionist and authoritarian regime.
That’s good to hear. It means that if this ‘trend’ holds Britain will totally outlaw bombs to Israel in another 12+ years. Of course this assumes that it will continue its current destruction of Gaza and the West Bank during this time. If not, then all prior restrictions will be removed.
Sadly I made the mistake of listening to low brow Talk radio this morning and all the Gor Blimey s were texting in or voice messaging in expressing their brain dead hopes that David Lammy will soon lose his post for being so disrespectful to Mr Netabyahoo. They are such ass lickers. The problem for these flag waving gor Blimeys who always "go rahnd me Nans for a Sunday roast,after I've got truly pissed at the pub o course,that's wot England means to me" their problem is which bit if racist hate should trump which other bit of racist hate. So it's not that David Lammy is black as such,but he's doing an anti-israel thing but the more ignorant British working class,the deplorables,they "stand with the Jews" because the Jews are anti -muslim thus it's a game to work out which enemy of my enemy is my friend thing. Their great grandparents were laughing at cartoon characters Ally Sloper and his pal Ikey Mo. Says it all.
Could this be the most ineffective tokenistic gesture in the history of token gestures?! But you have to commend neo-Tory-Labour for being bang on with their brand of announcing things which sound like they're meant to be something good, which then turn out to be the total opposite. Another masterstroke in malevolent incompetence.
Disgusting to put it mildly !
Just the Tip of the Iceberg !
What a surprise! How's that working out for the Palestinians?
Across the pond,
US just keeps the bombs flowing:
Password: Israel has a right to defend itself.
When will the US stop supporting genocide?
It's not too early to just say it.
When Zionists, oops I meant pigs, have wings.
There’s an election to worry about, upset AIPAC and you might not win - as the death toll rises so does your chance to become Prez
The entire”FREEWORLD” is an oxymoron emphasis on moron🫤 In the wisdom of one of my future heros , George Jetson ”JANE ,STOP THIS CRAZY THING!” But seriously its past time for capitulation anymore GENERAL STRIKE NOW EVERYWHERE EVERYONE EVERY MINUTE ‘TILL WE SINK MULTI NATIONAL PIRATE WAR SHIP GENOCIDE
Yes!! General strike long overdue.
The BRICS is well on the way to de-dollarising and isolating the US and its puppet the UK from world trade. We won't need to go on a general strike, we won't have jobs or pensions.
https://www.planetcritical.com/p/trickle-down-brics
Yikes
<< It’s gonna be so awkward when the real death toll in Gaza is announced at 200,000, isn’t it? >>
It may be closer than we realize. As I've mentioned before, the actual numbers are very difficult to establish. Who knows how many bodies are buried beneath the rubble, how many will die of disease, how many will die because of inadequate medical treatment, ...? For what it's worth, *Truthout* cited a letter published in *TheLancet* that suggested a figure of 186,000, and that was two months ago (8 July). Please note that this was NOT peer-reviewed research, but it did come from credible authors. https://truthout.org/articles/researchers-estimate-true-gaza-death-toll-at-186000-or-more/
That 200,000 figure may be right around the corner. Let us hope that the invasion can be halted before that time.
I haven't trusted truthout for a very long time now as they're a limited hangout gatekeeping institution but.....
And the UK (maybe with the help of Israel) will do everything possible to ensure that people are not disturbed by events happening in other places such as Gaza. So considerate of them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjwycG_9Ujo
And as a sign of the UK's commitment to human rights, the British government will send unsharpened kitchen knives to Israel.
🤣😂🤠
Just imagine a world in which share/stake holders are not existent .
Too bad for the Buffetts, Finks, Dimons, Ramjis and Johnsons ...
but a fantastic break-through for humanity with much, much better times ahead .
Aw, baby steps towards an arms embargo against an genocidal apartheid state! How cute! And so, SO Democratic.
Incrementalism. It's not the best solution, but let's not let the perfect be the enemy of the good! Now, eat your peas, tighten your belts, and be grateful for the tub the Blinken/Sullivan administration threw to the anti-genocide whale.
The idiots appear to be in charge everywhere.
Puppets
Why are they bothering? Anyhow, it was headline news on the BBC, which appears, to me anyhow, to exist in a World totally different from the one I’m in.
The whole media does. They present us with a parrelel universe every day
Kier Starmer is a Zionist married to a bloody Zionist. He is hardly likely to help end mass killings of brown skinned babies is he?
Aw,how can you say that. He's a nice diffident guy. He looks like Superman while he's being Clark Kent. I mean anyone could kick sand in his face couldnt they?!!😂😂😜
Shifty Labour face with Tory posterior
Don’t trust him
He's married to a Jewish woman, and you believe that is the basis of his foreign and defense policies. Why not just say that, if you truly believe it? Do you have any evidence of this? Calling someone " a bloody Zionist," and blaming them for a nation's foreign policy....this is what we call unhinged conspiracy theory. Not to mention antisemitic stereotyping. Seems to me his policy is the same as all prior PMs of either party, none of whom had Jewish spouses. That's a pretty big hole in your argument. I don't understand why you can't just say you don't agree with Starmer's policy, maybe give an intelligent reason for why you think he thinks that way, and give some citations so it can be verified. I know my suggested way is a lot harder, but we all know in the end it gets more respect when an argument is honest, straightforward, and supported by facts.
Sounds as though you’re a genocide supporter. You are probably immune from the atrocities perpetrated by the IDF and their minder SatanYahoo and his blatant lies. None of which has any veracity in the real world. Zionist lobby and AIPAC are all controlling and have US, UK and EU in their pockets, but Starmer and Sunak are both preconditioned, the former a Zionist and the latter a Modi sympathiser. Sunak supported Indian arms and personnel export in support of genocide in Gaza.
Hamas don’t want to kill all Jews they just want their land back, it’s Netanyahu who has deep seated murderous intent, perhaps to save his own skin .
It’s pathetic that you’re asking for citations ! Just go and read Ilan Pappe’s books on Ethnic Cleansing of Palestinians over eight decades.
He is an Israeli and a professor of History at a couple of unis including Exeter.
From River to the Sea, Palestine should be Free.
More senseless accusations with no citations.
The issue is whether you engaged in bigoted stereotypes. Only a maniac would think questioning a bigoted stereotype supports genocide. Actually, promoting false stereotypes encourages genocide.
You know that Pappe is an outlier whose methodology and conclusions are accepted only by a minority. That's because what he offers are his view of facts, not universally accepted views. It might help if you told which of his books you have read, and what was in those books that you rely on in making the argument that PM Starmer bases his policy on his wife's religion. Because you see, the only thing I have said is that it is racist and bigoted to stereotype, it's dishonest to make allegations without proof. Nothing else. You know that whatever one thinks of Pappe, he never said a word about Mrs.Starmer, and he'd in fact be the first to agree with me that every PM since Churchill held the same views. I don't want anyone fighting, don't want anyone killed, I support a two state solution, despise Netanyahu and it's possible to despise he and Hamas. You can read my posts on Substack and Medium; that's called research, which is a lot harder than popping off mindlessly and making crackpot ad hominem attacks.I draw the line at senseless name-calling, prejudiced stereotyping, making accusations without proof.
You’re inebriated with your own verbosity, to paraphrase Churchill. Whether or not you hate Khamas as well as Netanyahu does not diminish the possibility that our respective experiences of personal encounters with members of the opposing races in question could be fundamentally different. Jews I meet in daily life and professionally have anglicised names and consider dark skinned people especially Muslims as second class. Racism was invented by Judaism via the lovely book of Talmud. According to the Zionists Goyim are savages, only good for raping and slaying.
Look mate, you can try and blind me with your publications and your “knowledge” and verbiage I’m not impressed by you or the likes of you.
I’m a retired GP with BMJ and other publications of in my own name.
(I haven’t got the time or the inclination to reference segments of the following books of Pappe I’ve read. Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine , and Lobbying for Zionism.) It’s quite revealing that you consider him a renegade, and I have already pigeonholed you as an enemy of the innocent Palestinians and a Nakba denier, whether or not you dislike Satanyahoo. So just go away I don’t want any more exchanges with you.
"Jews I meet in daily life and professionally have anglicised names and consider dark skinned people especially Muslims as second class. Racism was invented by Judaism via the lovely book of Talmud. According to the Zionists Goyim are savages, only good for raping and slaying."
If it walks like a Jew hater, talks like a Jew hater, acts like a Jew hater, it's a Jew hater. You're not even trying to hide it.
Thanks Laura. Excellent post. I love your sense of humor
Just a friendly note to those who support this planned genocide of a people: You can easily be next.
But we have laws that protect us.
They’re only as good as those in power allow them to be. The Geneva Conventions are now toilet paper. War is never declared, just made reality. Even in the ‘civilized’ world xenophobia, intolerance and exclusion are the rule, not the exception, today.
So step carefully those with colored skin tones, women, LGBT+, those not nominally Christian and those with dissenting opinions. When the world is finished with Palestine, you’re next. Don’t scream or whine when it happens. You have been warned.
Brava.
To be fair, they've immediately suspendend the boom-bang shooty stuff (bullets, misslies. tanks parts etc.) but left the airplane stuff in place. We can't have Israeli jets falling out of the skies, can we? Not perfect, but it is a massive sea-change in political position from the Tories.
"Massive sea- change" is perhaps something of an overstatement. "Very minor moderation" is probably nearer the mark. Israel gets the great bulk of its heavy duty boom-bang shooty stuff from the US and us withholding a small number of items is unlikely to have any impact at all on Israel's ability to pursue their genocide. This is probably more about making a gesture to get voter goodwill in a way that neither upsets our big defence contractors nor impacts their cash flow. It's not a stretch to imagine that the 30-item shamlist has been studied, edited and approved in advance by said parties.
The global, military, industrial complex is profiting massively off the slaughter of children. They will not let go of those profits. Oh yeah, the construction industry is going to be booming too. Remember: War is good for business. Yay capitalism🫠
The worrying thing is,when they've run out of people to kill in Ukraine,in Middle East, where will they go next?
Iran🤷♀️
Let them try! Iran is part of BRICS now- the US will not be able to instal Blackrock/stone or steal fossil fuels from them. Certainly attacking Iran (or China) will be the end of the Empire.
Yep.
Yes. That seems to be in their sights. There is a very interesting article in Unherd (it's an online newspaper)-
"The Houthis now rule the Red Sea,America has silently admitted defeat'. written by
Malcolm Kyeune
2 September 2024." If you can get it,do read it. It tells us a lot the controlled media are NOT telling us.
The sea-change is the break from the blind sychophantism towards US policy.
From the Guardian:
The UK has broken with the Biden administration on a significant part of their tightly coordinated policy towards Israel by announcing it is suspending some arms export licences to Israel because of a “clear risk” they may be used to commit or facilitate a serious violation of international humanitarian law.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/sep/02/uk-suspends-30-arms-export-licences-to-israel-after-review
Lammy goes on to admit he's a 'Liberal Zionist' what ever the f that is. (It's OK to kill 'bad Palestinians', I wonder?!) A position that is absurd and completely disheartening. But it is a massive change from the Tory position in that it recognises the violation of humanitarian law by Israel.
Totally agree with everyone, it is not enough and we must go much further and take stronger action. This war needs to stop. Now.
The only reason this has been done is that 5 foreign office advisors have threatened to quit.
Lammy grovels before power, and his tribute to the Royals in the House of Commons was stomach-turning, so the Zionists (one can only imagine what they say behind Lammy's back) will welcome another useful idiot. After all, he's already a useful idiot in Starmer's Zionist and authoritarian regime.
That’s good to hear. It means that if this ‘trend’ holds Britain will totally outlaw bombs to Israel in another 12+ years. Of course this assumes that it will continue its current destruction of Gaza and the West Bank during this time. If not, then all prior restrictions will be removed.
Sadly I made the mistake of listening to low brow Talk radio this morning and all the Gor Blimey s were texting in or voice messaging in expressing their brain dead hopes that David Lammy will soon lose his post for being so disrespectful to Mr Netabyahoo. They are such ass lickers. The problem for these flag waving gor Blimeys who always "go rahnd me Nans for a Sunday roast,after I've got truly pissed at the pub o course,that's wot England means to me" their problem is which bit if racist hate should trump which other bit of racist hate. So it's not that David Lammy is black as such,but he's doing an anti-israel thing but the more ignorant British working class,the deplorables,they "stand with the Jews" because the Jews are anti -muslim thus it's a game to work out which enemy of my enemy is my friend thing. Their great grandparents were laughing at cartoon characters Ally Sloper and his pal Ikey Mo. Says it all.