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Simon Folkard's avatar

Congratulations to the citizens of Venezuela!

Lisa's avatar

I can't thank you enough. I only recently found you, but you're such a bright beacon of sanity — cutting through the gaslighting — that I'm already hooked. 💕

Frédéric Charles Dévé's avatar

I have exactly the same feeling - I feel safer when i think people like Laura K do what they do. Thanks Laura

CI Carlson's avatar

Chile did democracy all wrong by voting for Allende, but the CIA took care of that. SO many union organizers thrown out of airplanes! You’d think South Americans would learn not to screw with corporations and their profits. Capital uber alles !

Thomas Cleary's avatar

The number of nations (not to mention the number of times in each) where the CIA has ‘protected’ democracy is through the roof. Just in the Western Hemisphere it’s overthrown duly elected governments in Guatemala, Honduras, Panama, Haiti, Hawaii, Grenada, Chile, Paraguay, Bolivia and Peru as well as attempted to in Cuba, Nicaragua and, in 1812, even in Canada.

Patrick Tracey's avatar

I believe there have been 50 CIA backed coups since WWII. America is constantly at war be it proxy or covert they don’t mind as long as it makes money or gives them power.

Susan T's avatar

What a relief to hear that Maduro got in. Let's hope we won't have to hear more about the great democracies of the world interfering in Venezuelan politics.

Susan T's avatar

Sadly, there does seem to be some question about the way the votes were counted. Still, I hope the US manages to keep out of it for once. Apparently the US has offered to help the opposition candidate. And we all know what that "help" means.

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Robert Bromley's avatar

Who are these election observers Robert? I can find no information about them and many organisations, including Human Rights Watch, are saying the election results are not fully transparent. Are the observers internal to Venezuela or are they from international organisations? If they are international observers, what organisation(s) are they from? I want to believe the furore in the West is based on lies but where is the evidence that everything in the election was above board?

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Robert Bromley's avatar

You have not really helped me Robert. And I am not the enemy. However, since my last comment I have been made aware of the following link - https://www.mintpressnews.com/venezuela-while-us-politicians-call-fraud-american-election-observers-endorse-results/288010/ - which goes a long way to explaining who the observers were, and appears to come from a reliable source.

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Patrick Tracey's avatar

I live in hope of avoiding WWIII by the de unification of the U.S. into smaller strong Sovereign countries. Texas alone has a higher GDP than many countries. No one asked them to police the world that’s the job of international law and the UN (though arguably they own the UN). America is bankrupt with its cities and infrastructure crumbling. They are so in debt to China that they cannot even pay the interest on their loans. You can hear the ticking of the plan to go to war with China, wipe off the debt then play the usual business model of destroying a country and making vast profits from the military complex, installing a puppet government who awards the huge lucrative profits of rebuilding the infrastructure to American countries.

The US has the nerve to call China aggressive when they have 20 plus military bases surrounding its borders and six nuclear aircraft carriers steaming up and down its coat! They can field 16 Fleets like this and bring that up to 22 if mothballed equipment is deployed. The Chinese have two and are on a defence footing to defend their borders. I think a young school child would clearly see who the aggressor is.

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Patrick Tracey's avatar

The U.K. has two aircraft carriers only two years old but retired any jet that can land on them. One is in Portsmouth harbour having failed its sea trials with reactor problems and only good for scrap. The other is quietly sitting off the Palastinian coast flying 8 American F-35s in support of Israel (one ended up in drink on take off - pilots ok) it has a damaged screw/driveshaft and not fit for purpose. It’s also co-ordinating refuelling tankers from Cyprus and RAF Akrotiri in Turkey a 99% Muslim country but they want in to the European Union and NATO. China has just two aircraft carriers as on a Defence footing you don’t need to project attack killing forces around the globe. The USA has 16!!! With 6 more mothballed to return to service. Says it all really.

The Nasty Woman's avatar

I usually agree with you but not in this one. I am from Argentina and have a lot of Venezuelan friends and everybody wants Maduro to go. 8 millions Venezuelan left the country because of his "leftist " government. He's not left, he is a populist and a dictator. People in Venezuela were crying when they heard the results. And you know why? They want their families to go back home, and with Maduro still in power, they won't. He didn't won. Europeans don't know the truth about Venezuela or latinoamerica. Only what your trusted media tells you. Maybe you should take a trip there some day and see it with your own eyes.

Andrew Thomas's avatar

Right. What they need is what you have in Argentina. Which, interestingly, you left out of your comment. You are a U.S. Empire asset. And as for our trusted media- your bullshit is EXACTLY what they tell us.

Rebel Nun's avatar

Just to elaborate on my last comment: I know Cubans who think it would be great if US interests took over Cuba, as they keep trying to do; they tell each other it would be like Puerto Rico. No, it wouldn’t; they won’t allow that. It would be like Honduras.

Patrick Tracey's avatar

Duh’merika has a lot of built up resentment to Cuba - can you see them giving them a fair break? Two cousins from Ireland recently went to Cuba said it was a wonderful country but I think they are more interested in the bar prices than politics!

Rebel Nun's avatar

Thank you for your perspective and input. But I hope your friends are considering not only what it used to be like but what it might be like if US corporations get their claws deep into Venezuela.

Andy Dean's avatar

You do understand that opposition rallied over 40% themselves, right? So there's bound to be a lot of people with another opinion. The difference is, despite all shortcomings under Maduro there's still Venezuela to return to. Look at Ukraine for alternative.

Res Nullius's avatar

Middle class Venezuelans want Maduro to go. That's because they believe what their comprador-elite-owned media tell them - that their government's policies harm the economy. It's Western sanctions and other economic attacks which are harming the economy, as well as internal sabotage by Venezuela's own monied class.

The working class Venezuelans are not fooled by the propaganda. They can see how their living conditions have improved. Their solid support is why the Chavistas are still in power, despite all the forces arrayed against them. If the middle class would wake up and join in solidarity with the working class against the wealthy, then they'd be better off too.

Actually, I suppose that last sentence applies to most of the world right now.

Coco McShevitz's avatar

The 3 Venezuelans I know who have fled Venezuela are uniform in their opinions that both Maduro and Chavez are/were corrupt dictators who have destroyed the country. Before he left, one of them had multiple family members kidnapped and held for ransom (he described it as basically a business proposition, with literally a rate card with different prices depending on what condition you wanted your hostage back in). In each case, he said, the ransom was paid to a military official. Corrupt to the core.

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The Nasty Woman's avatar

If you are the left I have no more hope for the world. I'm out of here. I do not give my honest opinion to be insulted.

Dx's avatar

You could stay here and just block or mute this guy. He clearly has issues given the need to say how 'successful' he is in his profile.

Dx's avatar

I was going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he must be a parody account, but having glanced at his posts he's either had a sense-of-humour bypass or he's just a ****.

Rebel Nun's avatar

I’ve been insulted here and almost left but I’m glad I didn’t. Some of us appreciate all opinions even if we don’t agree. It’s important.

Julia's avatar

Your points are all so excellent (and mordantly funny) but isn’t this also a bit an OJ Simpson type situation also? Remember the OJ Simpson trial, where many of us realized that 2 things can be true at the same time, like “OJ did it AND Fuhrman planted the glove”? I just sort of think that while it is clearly true that the US is salivating over Venezuelan oil and is 💯 hypocritical re democracy etc, it’s also pretty clear that a lot of Venezuelans are sick and tired of Chavism and Maduro, and that Maduro is stealing an awful awful lot of assets. I guess it’s like the opposite of the meme that shows an American war plane dropping bombs with a 🏳️‍🌈 rainbow flag; just because an anti globalist leader condemns Israel for its outright violations of human rights doesn’t mean he himself is good and true. There are simply too many gray areas here. Venezuelans should have a choice that lies outside of the ven diagram areas of a CIA asset and a former bus driver drunk on power

Rebel Nun's avatar

I think that’s exactly the point. Venezuelans themselves should have a choice and they made it.

Julia's avatar

It’s always easy to cheerlead someone else’s bizarre gov then to actually LIVE in it, and I say this as a Bulgarian

Julia's avatar

Dude the problem is that no one believes the results. More than 6 million Venezuelans have left the country in the past 10 years because of Chavist policies…I’m totally not saying let’s let the CIA in, but I mean COME ON

Liana Chenoweth Kornfield's avatar

They left because the U.S./Western sanctions were starving them.

Julia's avatar

True but ALSO because Maduro has a stranglehold on society. Again, BOTH of these things can be true simultaneously

Res Nullius's avatar

Interesting how, when the working classes achieve some political outcomes in their favour, it's always described with terms like "stranglehold", "dictatorship" or "thuggery", but when they are oppressed and powerless, that's just business as usual.

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Res Nullius's avatar

The Venezuelan elections are the most scrutinised on Earth. The international observers believe the results. The Venezuelan working class believe the results (even if they do have to cross the border to get work). It's the Venezuelan middle class who can't believe the results because they keep listening to the comprador-elite-owned media.

Robert Bromley's avatar

Scrutinised by who Res? Who are the international observers? I can find no information about them and many organisations, including Human Rights Watch, are saying the election results are not fully transparent. I want to believe the furore in the West is based on lies but where is the evidence that everything in the election was above board?

Res Nullius's avatar

Oh dear, Bob, you do seem genuinely concerned about Venezuela and the transparency of their election! I assume you live in the West though, so the reason you can't find the information you seek is that it's been swamped by a deluge of bullshit. Good thing you've got trustworthy old HRW to set you right, eh?

Perhaps then, before we look at Venezuelan transparency, we should take a closer look at Human Rights Watch:

https://www.mintpressnews.com/human-rights-watch-right-wing-massacre-bolivia/262887/

Even if you don't read the whole article, scroll down to the section headed, "A LONG HISTORY OF DOUBLE STANDARDS." HRW is what is known as a gatekeeper, waylaying the naive who are earnestly "passionate about social justice."

As it happens, on that same news site there is an article reporting the statements of American observers of the Venezuelan elections, and naming their various organisations:

https://www.mintpressnews.com/venezuela-while-us-politicians-call-fraud-american-election-observers-endorse-results/288010/

So it seems the information you sought is available, you just have to know where to look. Probably not Google, Facebook, MSNBC or NYT.

Out of interest, what level of Venezuelan transparency would satisfy your anxiety? It's impossible to prove the absence of fraud, only its presence, and I assure you that if any of the almost 900 foreign observers had found anything concrete, we would have heard all about it.

But as a thought experiment, let's say every Venezuelan citizen mailed you a signed affidavit, telling you about their election experience and how they voted - what would that prove? Perhaps they're forgeries? Perhaps the people were paid or threatened to write what they did? Perhaps some of them were propagandised? How can you ever know The Truth?

Well, thing is, you can't. You can never know reality - you only have your perception of reality. You have a personal duty, I believe, to inform your own perception. You can't rely on some authority figure to just hand you the capital-T Truth. If you trust in some Truth Daddy to tell you what's what, and tell you that everything's gonna be okay, then you're making yourself vulnerable to deception and predation.

In the end, you gotta grow up and make your own call, based on your own experience of human nature and the way you've witnessed things go down in your lifetime.

And on that basis, I gotta say: Laura K layed out the power relationship between Venezuela and the Empire quite effectively.

Robert Bromley's avatar

Yes Res, when there are lunatics screaming that the election result is a fraud and that there was no transparency in the results, I am concerned about the transparency. If there is no transparency then those who want to slag off Venezuela can have a field day.

I'm sorry that I wasn't aware HRW are a questionable organisation; I have never heard anything bad about them before.

I was recently made aware of the second mintpress article you mention; definitely a great help in my search.

However, I am now informed that the Carter Centre has published an update - https://www.cartercenter.org/news/pr/2024/venezuela-073024.html - which says they cannot endorse the election; is it a questionable organisation as well?

I also see Amnesty International is very critical of what goes on in Venezuela. I have supported AI in the past so are you going to tell me that it is no longer to be trusted?

It is all very confusing and disturbing. I am fully behind calling out US hegemony but that shouldn't include defending monsters who are on the receiving end of US hegemony. It is counter-productive in my view to support one monster who is being attacked by another monster simply because one has a greater loathing for the attacking monster.

Susan T's avatar

Is it a choice between the CIA and Maduro?

Julia's avatar

Right now yes, but it shouldn’t be

Andy Dean's avatar

Come back to this issue in late 2040s after America instigates then loses an actual big war in Europe and the world clears out hopefully sporadic radioactive piles of rubble. You don't change leadership on a collision course, it'll only make you weaker on hit and allow the adversary to steamroll you. If Venezuela veers away even slightly now, it's doomed.

Res Nullius's avatar

Ah, so in the Shoulda Universe, all would be well, but in this Universe, the Venezuelans' best option is to capitulate to the Empire's desire to transform them into Honduras? You make a compelling argument.

Rebel Nun's avatar

Believe me, I’m desperately looking for a truly impartial authority who can arbitrate all countries’ election results! Here in the US, for example.

Andrew Thomas's avatar

Nobody believes the results. Except the hundreds of election monitors, including from the Carter Center. What you mean is that nobody WHO MATTERS LIKES the results. The U.S. Empire, the MICIMATT, and its allies, comprador elites worldwide.

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Antonio Manuel Magalhaes's avatar

It were the sanctions against Venezuela, as it keeps happening against Cuba, a worldwide shameful act with idiotic complacency of EU among others, that instigates such countries’ population suffer till reaching an unbearable state of despair that drives to vote on the puppet-clown suggested

Antonio Manuel Magalhaes's avatar

Your comments are strictly precise and correct. My congratulations for the clarity of the arguments. As nowadays usual, US policy strikes at several critical points of the globe where they see potential to extract pure profit or do a settlement of regional influence close to the real targets to be reached later

Julia's avatar

Sorry but you lost me, and probably any generally sane person reading your words, aitim you said “Comrade Stalin”…Let *me* know when you atop idolizing other people’s psychopathic leaders.

G S's avatar

Many Americans like to think they have the right to "put things right" in another country. They seem to think they are above everyone else. It is about time to "put things right" with their warped mentality.

M.Browning's avatar

And right on cue CIA’s own paper of record the NYT characterized Maduro’s victory as “tainted” which tells us although this is exactly what we should expect from lamestream media there’s a real sense of desperation that’s intensified within the US empire, for the chock hold it once had on the rest of the world has lost its grip. Especially in the so called global south.

Patrick Tracey's avatar

Great article. Satire with actual facts really floats my boat! I had an elderly friend die recently, he was an old school investigative reporter back in pre-internet days and when we had an obsolete expression called the ‘free press’ . I honestly thought he was the last of his kind, smart, fearless and relentless pursuit of the truth up to the end. But seeing your posts and a handful of others gives me inspiration and hope for the future.

My son is 22 and just graduated his Honours law degree. Because I’ve spoken about politics, justice and truth since a toddler (well actually when he was in his mums tum too!) He has a mindset/awareness beyond his years, politics is a good way of teaching history, geography, organised religion, ‘democracy’ and that there is significant difference between Communism and Socialism. Just look at France, Switzerland and the Scandinavian countries where people pay high taxes but don’t complain as it is obvious it’s going into the community and benefiting them and their loved ones not sliding into the pockets of MPs like in England. Sadly the vast majority of his peers are completely oblivious to the workings of government and our so called ‘democracy as the outdated Education system at all levels is focused on producing worker drones not free thinking human beings.

I would upgrade to a paid subscription to your posts in a heart beat if I could afford it but now unfortunately unable to work due to disabilities so money tight. I’m just so glad I get to read your posts and share your content with others. Carry on!😃

Rebel Nun's avatar

Congratulations on a long sane life and a thinking child! I’m so sorry about losing your friend - I’m grateful for the good journalists we had. 💐

The Revolution Continues's avatar

"The CIA has no choice but to export democracy before Venezuela does a trade deal with China or something."

Yes! You don't realize just how "dangerous" a trade deal with China could be... I mean, Venezuela could accidentally sell it's oil and gas reserves to the Chinese instead of "giving" them freely to the US under the guidance of Venezuela's "real" president, Juan Guaido. (And if you believe any of this, I have some swampland along the Pecos River to sell you...)

Stephen Duplantier's avatar

Most brilliantly incisive sarcasm in journalism today!

janoskar.hansen@gmail.com's avatar

Stop this man he has not been sanctioned by the USA

apropos, China is in talks with Venezuela

Hachemi Hadjoudj's avatar

Long live the Bolivarian revolution! We welcome with joy the re-election of President Maduro!

Lorna's avatar

Go Venezuela! Go Laura!

peter daley's avatar

A very fine satire, so well expressed.