He was making 1.75 million pounds annually for over a decade - mainly from elderly people who believe they'll go to prison unless they pay their TV licence!
Gary "man of the people" also promoted the death pen shots, which killed or permanently injured, young men, specifically in their early 20's - several of whom were aspiring footballers - I wonder if Gary can sleep at night knowing he played his part in shilling for the corrupt pharma industry and playing his part in destroying young lives?
I don’t see the value of this tit for tat while the fact remains that people are being tortured for Israeli. My view of the Israeli government will absolutely never be the same. There is no excuse for this abomination. None.
I agree. And Gary Linekar shouldn't be fired, or maligned, for having the decency to object to Israel's savagery. The BBC has been deliberately manufacturing consent for genocide. It has also been concealing evidence of the crimes against humanity that it continues to facilitate & incite.
It has quite a lot to do with your unsubtle implication that Lineker's salary makes him a heartless monster, who's exploiting "elderly people who believe they'll go to prison unless they pay their TV licence."
But since your standards only apply to Gary — and you deeply resent the very suggestion that those standards should apply to anyone else — I tried to look it up myself, while you were whining about the fact that you can't choose what other people ask you.
I couldn't find her yearly salary, but I did find that she has amassed a net worth of over £5M. ("Mainly from elderly people who believe they'll go to prison unless they pay their TV licence!")
And here we have another example of a conspiracy theory… “ death pen shots”… for a minute I thought you was talking about the death penalty in some American states… that’s how much sense you make…
Use your imagination. It's probably resides in the underdeveloped part of your brain where you're critical thinking skills died back in 2020 during the bourgeois liberal "great panic".
Note to all you humanitarians out there: make one small error and the super righteous Campaign Against Antisemitism will hunt you down (if you are famous enough to rank as a propaganda hit) and you will loose your job and be smeared as antisemitic for ever.
Didn’t notice a tiny trope on a cartoon, took it down, and apologised?
Totally agree and not only on the issue of Palestine - five years ago, the BBC colluded with the government and spread mass formation fear propaganda, making the general public believe there was a "deadly" virus running amok.
Gary lineker played his part on behalf of the state and his paymasters, skilled for the death pen shots and coerced/manipulated many young men into taking a pointless medical intervention, leaving several of them permanently injured or dead.
Give it a rest! The proof is in the results. Vaccines save lives. The COVID vaccines saved millions and kept millions of others from suffering a worse case.
We don’t know that. No studies were done using control groups. The world epidemiological evidence shows otherwise - in many populations (nations, states, counties, or cities), those with lower vaccination rates had LOWER rates of COVID incidence and death. The media has buried this information.
Aren’t you committing slander or libel against Gary Lineker by attributing deaths directly to him? How many people are you accusing him of killing? Is this like another “So many mysterious deaths at the hands of the Clintons” load of nonsense? Sure sounds like it!!
He promoted an untested, unregulated, experimental pharmaceutical product - anyone (particularly those in positions of media power) involved in promoting the death pen shots, should themselves be tried for misleading information.
Ask yourself why would you take medical advice from: lineker, Frankie Boyle, piers Morgan or any of the MSM c'lebs?
I’m so sorry for your husband’s uncles, and for all who died. Tragically and concerningly, the only two people I had a connection with who were said to have died of it almost certainly died of the treatments, given the medical circumstances. Here in the US, hospitals got money for each COVID death; there are numerous accounts of nurse and doctor whistleblowers who have stated that they were told to declare any death of someone who tested positive (it’s acknowledged that there were many false positives as well as many asymptomatic cases) to be a COVID death; some of these were auto accidents, gunshots, and terminal cancer. Again, the media covered this up.
Highly unlikely - most likely it appeared as “with” rather than “off” it was completely arbitrary and more of guessing game by doctors given very loose rules to follow. Diagnosis of the illusive co(n)vid was not done under rigerous protocols.
Stop excusing the genocidal psychopathy of Christian Zionists, with your bullshit denialism.
Keir Starmer is not only "incessantly harassing & hounding" people, he has been sicking the British enforcement & judicial systems on people, in order to industrialize that harassment.
Starmer hounds anti-Zionists en masse, with ham-fisted FORCE.
The same goes for Trump, and no doubt the banker that just took possession of Canada will follow suit.
Perhaps not, but they contribute a good deal of money and propaganda to the cause. They also believe that Jesus will only return once all the Jews are returned to the State of Israel, when they will given a choice to convert to Chrtistianity or burn in hell. Strange bedfellows ......
$3.8B per year is the base-level of what is gouged out of the US tax-base, by its Christian-Zionist leaders, for Israel. (To fund Zionism.) And a practically limitless amount is added to that base amount, through Foreign Aid bills that give Israel another $25B here, and another $25B there. (To fund Zionism.)
The UK's tax-base is similarly robbed by its Christian-Zionist leaders. (To fund Zionism.)
Canada's Christian-Zionist leaders do the same. (To fund Zionism.)
In each case, a fraction of that money circles back, through organizations like AIPAC and its equivalents (Labour Friends of Israel?), where it's used to buy the politicians who keep TAXPAYERS' money flowing to Israel.
Jewish Zionists aren't funding Israel's savagery. Our Christian Zionist leaders are forcing us ALL to fund it.
Not on the ground, no. Those are Jewish religious nut jobs and "manifest destiny" types. Doesn't excuse the Christian nutjobs playing along with their own lunacy.
It’s not excusing, it’s underrating rust they play different roles, have different and different boundaries on what they’re willing to do for having Zionist beliefs - which therefore a separation between the two.
It’s the Jewish Zionist/ that are the core problem. And it’s just a minority of nut jobs, oh no, all the data proves it’s the vast majority of Israeli Jewish and diaspora Jewish Zionists. There is data for this.
For example, every single election they’ve had since their invention inside Palestine, they have voted in expansionist settler colony supporting parties not power.
Polls have shown the vast majority of Israelis Jewish Zionists believed Israel wasn’t going hard enough in Gaza.
Pardon my French but that is utter ignorant, uneducated bollocks, that has been peddled by the lefty dominated pro-Palestine movement for decades, who are obsessed with political correctness rather than accuracy.
The fundamental reality is Christian Zionists and Jewish Zionists do not behave and think in a monolithic way, they are not motivated by the same things. All of which determines how far they are willing to go to support Zionism and Israel.
With every other ideology and group we acknowledge they’re not a monolith and there are different factions within it - yet when it comes to Zionism there is a demented obsession by too many, to want to look at them as a monolith.
Your French isn't French; it's pig-ignorant, right-wing fuckwitism, echoing the self-indulgent bullshit christian-supremacists have spewed, for centuries.
Who gives a shit whether Zionists are a "monolith?" They're all fucking COMPLICIT; they're all actively causing, and furthering, the same problem.
So NO. It's NOT cute & harmless when Christians do it.
Figure it out. You're licking the boots of half of your enemies. While mindlessly parroting THEIR fascist propaganda. (Like mewling about being "politically correct," when you're faced with people who are LITERALLY correct.)
I suppose there were differing views amongst Nazis as well, but none of those views were kind to people the hated or used as tools to further their cause. Same with Zionists.
I seriously doubt they're anymore "original" than any other Christian. That's like saying the current population living in Egypt built the sphinx.
This thread is batshit crazy, an eclectic mix of bourgeois liberals, left over panic-demic Karen's, Owen Jones fanboys and crazy cat ladies for Kamala types.
They have already been under attack. I've nevertheless found it difficult to get accurate attention paid to that, by Xtian Zionists. There are lots of stupid excuses which have been seeded in their discourse for use against such an incursion of truth. "There are extremists on both sides" seems to be favorite. No, no, it's not just randomly and harmlessly "traditional" to spit on Christians as is said by the Jewish who do that. It's "traditional" because to debase Christians in harmful ways is a religious practice among them.
Many of them are. But there are millions more who are mindlessly going along with what they’re told is the Jesus thing to do, like a well-educated and respected pastor in my town who put a huge Israeli flag on his church AFTER October 7. I got on his case and he took it down - some of them just need facts. Then there’s the US Congress, who are paid to go along with it, by both AIPAC and the CZs; they are not truly crazy, they’re truly evil.
No one is denying the role Christian Zionism plays, but what happens in Palestine isn’t because of Christian Zionism - it is ultimately because of Jewish Zionism.
And it is Jewish Zionists who occupy Palestine, terrorise Palestinians in Palestine, slaughter Palestinians and steal their land.
Christian Zionists aid and abet Jewish Zionism. Jewish Zionism makes the fatal blows. Your lefty fuckwittery of lumping all Zionists together is akin to conflating the aider and abetter with the actual murder.
Lefty buffoonery and intellectual dishonesty that has infested the pro-Palestine movement in the West has only helped lead the Palestinians into the abyss.
"No one is denying the role Christian Zionism plays, but... (immediately denies the role Christian Zionism plays)."
~ the immortal intellect of Kamran Hussain
•••
What else should I expect from someone who lays out a metaphor about aiding & abetting murder, without realizing that it supports the fact that they ALL belong in prison for their joint-commission of the crime?
OMG it’s like speaking with a child - does everything need spelling out. The whole point of raising that metaphor was to outline the fact that even though they both would go to prison, the weight and severity of the perpetrator carries far severe legal weight than that of the aider and abettor.
It is complete buffoonery driven by ideological dogma to equate the two. You do it because you don’t want to accept mentioning “Jewish” as that goes against your political correctness dogma.
But it’s very relevant to be mentioned because it is they who are the primary drivers in the whole equation.
Since before the Zionist colonization of Palestine, the Western powers have been exploiting Jewish Zionists to do their dirty work for them of dominating the Middle East. They use Christian Zionism to get support for it.
That’s not a narrative rooted in any historical facts - albeit it a popular one on the left.
Western powers didn’t need a Jewish state in the Middle East to control anything, they already controlled it and would control it even without a Jewish state.
It was Jewish Zionists led by Herzl that convinced, bribed and terrorised their way into essentially forcing the Christian Zionist factions to accept a Jewish state inside Palestine.
Christian Zionists were very hesitant because they acknowledged it had a huge risk to disrupt their already cosy relationship with leader’s of the Arab world in the aftermath of WW2.
"His departure comes after he shared an Instagram post about Zionism that included an drawing of a rat, historically used as an antisemitic insult"
Also in the same BBC post, we read the following:
"Roger Mosey - former head of news and director of sport at the BBC - says "the biggest problem is that the BBC allowed Gary Lineker to have a social media profile".
So, what about ALL the other BBC employees and there are quite a few of them, that have social media profiles?
Former BBC hack, Mosey then twists the knife into LIneker:
"And if you're the highest paid presenter in the BBC, I think it's difficult to be starting to opine on anything that comes into your head as a former footballer, when you also have this BBC hat you're wearing," he tells BBC 5 Live."
"anything that comes into your head"? So Lineker is condemned for being a "former footballer" who dares to have opinions other than those about football!
My favorite person on earth is a BBC employee with a courageous social media presence, and I’m worried about her. We need to have her back, somehow. (Hint: pretty photo at the top)
World renowned football commentator, Gary Lineker, has been forced out of the BBC by Israel
After some 26 years on air, the former footballer turned commentator, was forced to step down from his roll at the BBC for speaking out in favour of Palestinian human rights. In response, the Israel Lobby ran an aggressive campaign to have him fired. As usual, it was claimed he had been anti-Semitic, with no evidence at all. Due to the obvious sway of the Israel Lobby over the BBC, like it has over the British government, Lineker had no chance standing up to one of the most powerful lobby forces in the country.
It wasn’t Lneker’s political opinions about what truly a genocide; it was deployment of ancient antisemitic imagery comparing Jews to rats. Just like the Nazis. If you have no problem with that I don’t know what to say.
Well I haven't seen the Instagram post, so I can't comment on it specifically but it doesn't detract from the mass slaughter and deliberate starvation Israel is carrying out on largely, Palestinian children. And how do you respond to this?
Former Israeli Likud Knesset member and current leader of the Zehut party, Moshe Feiglin, openly called for the genocide of the Palestinian people in a recent statement to Israeli Channel 14.
Feiglin had previously justified the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza by paraphrasing Adolf Hitler, “As Hitler said, ‘I cannot live if one Jew is left.’ We can’t live here if one Islamo-Nazi remains in Gaza.”
The invocation of Nazi terminology reflects Feiglin’s long-standing advocacy for “turning Gaza into Jaffa”, a reference to the Palestinian city occupied and ethnically cleansed by “Israel.”
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He also suggested cutting off electricity and water to Gaza’s urban centers while shelling “all civilian and military infrastructure down to their foundations.”
So you think Nazi propaganda is an acceptable way to protest the genocide? I think it’s possible to be anti Israel and now lower yourself to such standards. It also makes Hamas look like heroes. Murdering babies and mutilating vaginas isn’t so hot either. So when Arabs are depicted as being dirty greasy, blood-thirst animals I assume you’re okay with that? Also there are horrible racists on both sides of this issue.
Nazi propaganda? Those the words of an Israeli paraphrasing a Nazi! I don't know where you're coming from. Who is talking about depicting Arabs in that way? Not me. I think you need to read Feiglin's words more closely. Yes, there are racists all over the place but again, it's Israel blowing up babies, tens of thousands of babies. As to the Zionist propaganda about murdering babies, it's been exposed as nothing but a pack of lies, used to justify slaughtering Palestinians.
Oh my god, I didn’t realize I was communicating with a true believer. You’d have been a good Nazi. And by the way, plenty of babies were murdered by Hamas. Or will you swat away at the reality of the Bibas boys? Or all those cute videos Your pals in Hamas made during their massacring and raping and pogromming. That’s just Israeli hasbra , right? I’m sure you’ll declare all that, despite the mountains of proof, as pure propaganda. And I say this as someone who acknowledges the current genocide in Gaza. But such gray as opposed to black and white thinking is not up your alley
The problem is that here in the UK a large number of people seem to get their main news and opinions from the BBC. I’ve been told by people, who in most respects appear to be quite intelligent, that the BBC is impartial, that they have to be impartial. I’m boycotting them but, inevitably, hear about their activities. Trying to tell people about what’s actually happening in Gaza and the Middle East in general has lead to me being told that I am being mislead by, well, they can’t provide an answer to that. Showing them articles and photos doesn’t seem to help. The photos have been doctored and the articles are lies. A number of them now have come out and said food should be allowed in but they still blame HAMAS for everything. I haven’t yet discovered what these people think should happen to a people if thousands of foreigners steal their land and murder them if they don’t go peacefully away someplace. It seems they shouldn’t have ever been there in the first place. However, since they are, why don’t they just leave without a fuss. I said to one idiot, what would you do and he didn’t answer and just swore at me. It seems Arabs are evil. All Arabs including Palestinians. Plus Islam is an evil Religion. I said some of them are Christians and was told that they can’t be proper Christians as they’re Arabs. So much for Christianity.
The BBC is not “politically neutral”. There is no such thing as unbiased news coverage, so I’m not suggesting the BBC is unusual in this respect. All news coverage is, by definition, determined by value judgements, some of which are political.
Not being politically neutral at the BBC manifests itself in two ways.
Firstly, it does not treat equally events in Israel/Palestine, their context or the public response in the UK to the genocide. The cumulative effect of this is its coverage de-emphasises Israel’s motivations and guilt.
Secondly, on the relatively few occasions it does confront events, it uses passive language that de-emphasises Israel’s actions and motivations while using active language that strongly implies Hamas, and the Palestinians generally, are guilty of violence.
In other words, the BBC is biased in favour of Israel, through both its use of language and the absence of context from much of its reporting. Gary Linekar’s departure is just a reflection of this bias. He’s being blamed for taking sides against a foreign country when, for instance, Andrew Neil escaped any criticism for explicitly supporting the Tories here in the UK at the last election while working for the Beeb as a current affairs journalist - a much more egregious example of bias.
It seems you can be biased towards the right but not towards the left at the BBC, but this is not unusual across the UK legacy media industry.
I'm sure majority of the UK opposes the genocide so it's very clear that our media, just like our politicians, believe we are of no consequence. Thank heavens for the impartial Laura K!
It’s disgusting! He speaks for normal people on this abnormal island 🤦♀️
He was making 1.75 million pounds annually for over a decade - mainly from elderly people who believe they'll go to prison unless they pay their TV licence!
Gary "man of the people" also promoted the death pen shots, which killed or permanently injured, young men, specifically in their early 20's - several of whom were aspiring footballers - I wonder if Gary can sleep at night knowing he played his part in shilling for the corrupt pharma industry and playing his part in destroying young lives?
How much is Rachel Riley milking out of those "elderly people who believe they'll go to prison unless they pay their TV licence?"
You seem like the right person to ask.
I don’t see the value of this tit for tat while the fact remains that people are being tortured for Israeli. My view of the Israeli government will absolutely never be the same. There is no excuse for this abomination. None.
I agree. And Gary Linekar shouldn't be fired, or maligned, for having the decency to object to Israel's savagery. The BBC has been deliberately manufacturing consent for genocide. It has also been concealing evidence of the crimes against humanity that it continues to facilitate & incite.
Your point is what exactly?
Defensive much?
It's a question. Surely you've encountered one before.
A rhetorical one that appears to have nothing to do with comment on Gary the shill.
It has quite a lot to do with your unsubtle implication that Lineker's salary makes him a heartless monster, who's exploiting "elderly people who believe they'll go to prison unless they pay their TV licence."
But since your standards only apply to Gary — and you deeply resent the very suggestion that those standards should apply to anyone else — I tried to look it up myself, while you were whining about the fact that you can't choose what other people ask you.
I couldn't find her yearly salary, but I did find that she has amassed a net worth of over £5M. ("Mainly from elderly people who believe they'll go to prison unless they pay their TV licence!")
And here we have another example of a conspiracy theory… “ death pen shots”… for a minute I thought you was talking about the death penalty in some American states… that’s how much sense you make…
What are death pen shots???
Use your imagination. It's probably resides in the underdeveloped part of your brain where you're critical thinking skills died back in 2020 during the bourgeois liberal "great panic".
“This above all: to thine own self be true.”
The BBC is totally compromised-do we need more proof?
Note to all you humanitarians out there: make one small error and the super righteous Campaign Against Antisemitism will hunt you down (if you are famous enough to rank as a propaganda hit) and you will loose your job and be smeared as antisemitic for ever.
Didn’t notice a tiny trope on a cartoon, took it down, and apologised?
Sorry you’re toast, that’s the way the CAA rolls.
If I were Gary, I’d wear this as a badge of honour. The BBCs complicit behaviour is totally unacceptable. They should ashamed of themselves.
Totally agree and not only on the issue of Palestine - five years ago, the BBC colluded with the government and spread mass formation fear propaganda, making the general public believe there was a "deadly" virus running amok.
Gary lineker played his part on behalf of the state and his paymasters, skilled for the death pen shots and coerced/manipulated many young men into taking a pointless medical intervention, leaving several of them permanently injured or dead.
Give it a rest! The proof is in the results. Vaccines save lives. The COVID vaccines saved millions and kept millions of others from suffering a worse case.
We don’t know that. No studies were done using control groups. The world epidemiological evidence shows otherwise - in many populations (nations, states, counties, or cities), those with lower vaccination rates had LOWER rates of COVID incidence and death. The media has buried this information.
A worse case of what exactly - difine this "deadly virus" - who do you know who died "off" co(n)vid?
Aren’t you committing slander or libel against Gary Lineker by attributing deaths directly to him? How many people are you accusing him of killing? Is this like another “So many mysterious deaths at the hands of the Clintons” load of nonsense? Sure sounds like it!!
Don't feel the need to reply Amanda : a quick scan of you're reposts are quite revealing.
Left over panic-demic Karen, Biden good - Trump bad, more than likely a gentile Zionist.
Attracting you're kind to vaccine sceptic opinion is like shooting fish in a barrel.
He promoted an untested, unregulated, experimental pharmaceutical product - anyone (particularly those in positions of media power) involved in promoting the death pen shots, should themselves be tried for misleading information.
Ask yourself why would you take medical advice from: lineker, Frankie Boyle, piers Morgan or any of the MSM c'lebs?
My husband’s two uncles died of it.
I’m so sorry for your husband’s uncles, and for all who died. Tragically and concerningly, the only two people I had a connection with who were said to have died of it almost certainly died of the treatments, given the medical circumstances. Here in the US, hospitals got money for each COVID death; there are numerous accounts of nurse and doctor whistleblowers who have stated that they were told to declare any death of someone who tested positive (it’s acknowledged that there were many false positives as well as many asymptomatic cases) to be a COVID death; some of these were auto accidents, gunshots, and terminal cancer. Again, the media covered this up.
Highly unlikely - most likely it appeared as “with” rather than “off” it was completely arbitrary and more of guessing game by doctors given very loose rules to follow. Diagnosis of the illusive co(n)vid was not done under rigerous protocols.
'Define' incase your a substack pendant!
Jewish Zionists are a danger to free speech in the UK.
All Zionists are a danger to free speech in the UK.
Christian Zionists aren’t the ones who incessantly harass and hound. It’s specifically Jewish Zionists.
Stop excusing the genocidal psychopathy of Christian Zionists, with your bullshit denialism.
Keir Starmer is not only "incessantly harassing & hounding" people, he has been sicking the British enforcement & judicial systems on people, in order to industrialize that harassment.
Starmer hounds anti-Zionists en masse, with ham-fisted FORCE.
The same goes for Trump, and no doubt the banker that just took possession of Canada will follow suit.
Fuck ALL Zionists.
Perhaps not, but they contribute a good deal of money and propaganda to the cause. They also believe that Jesus will only return once all the Jews are returned to the State of Israel, when they will given a choice to convert to Chrtistianity or burn in hell. Strange bedfellows ......
Globally the vast majority of money the money that fuels Zionism is Jewish Zionist money and organisations.
$3.8B per year is the base-level of what is gouged out of the US tax-base, by its Christian-Zionist leaders, for Israel. (To fund Zionism.) And a practically limitless amount is added to that base amount, through Foreign Aid bills that give Israel another $25B here, and another $25B there. (To fund Zionism.)
https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/04/24/israel-hamas-war-news-gaza-palestine/
The UK's tax-base is similarly robbed by its Christian-Zionist leaders. (To fund Zionism.)
Canada's Christian-Zionist leaders do the same. (To fund Zionism.)
In each case, a fraction of that money circles back, through organizations like AIPAC and its equivalents (Labour Friends of Israel?), where it's used to buy the politicians who keep TAXPAYERS' money flowing to Israel.
Jewish Zionists aren't funding Israel's savagery. Our Christian Zionist leaders are forcing us ALL to fund it.
Fuck ALL Zionists.
You’re missing the point AGAIN - Christian Zionist leaders are funded by Jewish Zionists and that’s the critical connection.
Isn't the correct term "gentile Zionist" - it's a bit off a shout to claim modern day Christianity is playing a major role in the genocide.
Christian Zionist money tends to be on a level of, income from a husband wife landscaping business, or tractor sales store. Not very weighty.
Also read Lisa's comment, please.
well it's the ones that proclaim they're Christian that throw abuse at our local Palestine Solidarity demos. Your experience is clearly different.
They’re not the ones killing, terrorising, subjugating and occupying Palestinians in Palestine. It’s Jewish Zionists.
Not on the ground, no. Those are Jewish religious nut jobs and "manifest destiny" types. Doesn't excuse the Christian nutjobs playing along with their own lunacy.
It’s not excusing, it’s underrating rust they play different roles, have different and different boundaries on what they’re willing to do for having Zionist beliefs - which therefore a separation between the two.
It’s the Jewish Zionist/ that are the core problem. And it’s just a minority of nut jobs, oh no, all the data proves it’s the vast majority of Israeli Jewish and diaspora Jewish Zionists. There is data for this.
For example, every single election they’ve had since their invention inside Palestine, they have voted in expansionist settler colony supporting parties not power.
Polls have shown the vast majority of Israelis Jewish Zionists believed Israel wasn’t going hard enough in Gaza.
Etc, etc.
Zionists period are a danger to free speech everywhere. Folks being Jewish has nothing to do with it. There are plenty of Christian zionists.
Pardon my French but that is utter ignorant, uneducated bollocks, that has been peddled by the lefty dominated pro-Palestine movement for decades, who are obsessed with political correctness rather than accuracy.
The fundamental reality is Christian Zionists and Jewish Zionists do not behave and think in a monolithic way, they are not motivated by the same things. All of which determines how far they are willing to go to support Zionism and Israel.
With every other ideology and group we acknowledge they’re not a monolith and there are different factions within it - yet when it comes to Zionism there is a demented obsession by too many, to want to look at them as a monolith.
Enough of the BS.
Your French isn't French; it's pig-ignorant, right-wing fuckwitism, echoing the self-indulgent bullshit christian-supremacists have spewed, for centuries.
Who gives a shit whether Zionists are a "monolith?" They're all fucking COMPLICIT; they're all actively causing, and furthering, the same problem.
So NO. It's NOT cute & harmless when Christians do it.
Figure it out. You're licking the boots of half of your enemies. While mindlessly parroting THEIR fascist propaganda. (Like mewling about being "politically correct," when you're faced with people who are LITERALLY correct.)
Fuck ALL Zionists.
I love how you capitalise certain words for emphasis - it makes you appear "genuine" and "earnest".
You should get a job ghost writing for Gary "shill" lineker.
The only thing Linekar did wrong, was to step down.
Gary Linekar should be suing the BBC for DEFAMATION.
You’re complicit too.
I suppose there were differing views amongst Nazis as well, but none of those views were kind to people the hated or used as tools to further their cause. Same with Zionists.
Once they have dealt with the Palestinians the Christian’s will be next. Maybe that’s will wake up the wests politicians, but I won’t hold my breath.
You do know that there are thousands of Palestinian Christians? Don’t ignore them! These are the original Christians from the time of Christ.
I seriously doubt they're anymore "original" than any other Christian. That's like saying the current population living in Egypt built the sphinx.
This thread is batshit crazy, an eclectic mix of bourgeois liberals, left over panic-demic Karen's, Owen Jones fanboys and crazy cat ladies for Kamala types.
They have already been under attack. I've nevertheless found it difficult to get accurate attention paid to that, by Xtian Zionists. There are lots of stupid excuses which have been seeded in their discourse for use against such an incursion of truth. "There are extremists on both sides" seems to be favorite. No, no, it's not just randomly and harmlessly "traditional" to spit on Christians as is said by the Jewish who do that. It's "traditional" because to debase Christians in harmful ways is a religious practice among them.
No doubt.
A friend told mine in Kentucky had a run-in with some Christian Zionists. She described them as “truly crazy”.
Many of them are. But there are millions more who are mindlessly going along with what they’re told is the Jesus thing to do, like a well-educated and respected pastor in my town who put a huge Israeli flag on his church AFTER October 7. I got on his case and he took it down - some of them just need facts. Then there’s the US Congress, who are paid to go along with it, by both AIPAC and the CZs; they are not truly crazy, they’re truly evil.
Err...what 'free speech'?
all of em
What about the Christian Zionists? Are they a danger at all?
Christian Zionists aren’t the ones who incessantly harass and hound. It’s specifically Jewish Zionists.
As I said above, to your identical comment:
Stop excusing the genocidal psychopathy of Christian Zionists, with your bullshit denialism.
Starmer hounds anti-Zionists en masse, with ham-fisted FORCE.
Fuck ALL Zionists.
Whimsical nonsense.
No one is denying the role Christian Zionism plays, but what happens in Palestine isn’t because of Christian Zionism - it is ultimately because of Jewish Zionism.
And it is Jewish Zionists who occupy Palestine, terrorise Palestinians in Palestine, slaughter Palestinians and steal their land.
Christian Zionists aid and abet Jewish Zionism. Jewish Zionism makes the fatal blows. Your lefty fuckwittery of lumping all Zionists together is akin to conflating the aider and abetter with the actual murder.
Lefty buffoonery and intellectual dishonesty that has infested the pro-Palestine movement in the West has only helped lead the Palestinians into the abyss.
Enough now.
"No one is denying the role Christian Zionism plays, but... (immediately denies the role Christian Zionism plays)."
~ the immortal intellect of Kamran Hussain
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What else should I expect from someone who lays out a metaphor about aiding & abetting murder, without realizing that it supports the fact that they ALL belong in prison for their joint-commission of the crime?
OMG it’s like speaking with a child - does everything need spelling out. The whole point of raising that metaphor was to outline the fact that even though they both would go to prison, the weight and severity of the perpetrator carries far severe legal weight than that of the aider and abettor.
It is complete buffoonery driven by ideological dogma to equate the two. You do it because you don’t want to accept mentioning “Jewish” as that goes against your political correctness dogma.
But it’s very relevant to be mentioned because it is they who are the primary drivers in the whole equation.
They are the root cause.
In the US, Christian Zionists hold way too much politicla power. It IS a real problem.
They don’t per se - they do only because they’re funded and lobbied to by Jewish Zionist organisations and the Jewish state of Israel.
Follow the money.
And theeee the most critical point - it’s not Christian Zionists who occupy, terrorise, murder and subjugate Palestinians in Palestine.
Since before the Zionist colonization of Palestine, the Western powers have been exploiting Jewish Zionists to do their dirty work for them of dominating the Middle East. They use Christian Zionism to get support for it.
That’s not a narrative rooted in any historical facts - albeit it a popular one on the left.
Western powers didn’t need a Jewish state in the Middle East to control anything, they already controlled it and would control it even without a Jewish state.
It was Jewish Zionists led by Herzl that convinced, bribed and terrorised their way into essentially forcing the Christian Zionist factions to accept a Jewish state inside Palestine.
Christian Zionists were very hesitant because they acknowledged it had a huge risk to disrupt their already cosy relationship with leader’s of the Arab world in the aftermath of WW2.
Fantastic as always. The best satirist of our time.
This reads like an Onion spoof. But it's 100% accurate. The world is upside down.
Rats!
This from the BBC today:
"His departure comes after he shared an Instagram post about Zionism that included an drawing of a rat, historically used as an antisemitic insult"
Also in the same BBC post, we read the following:
"Roger Mosey - former head of news and director of sport at the BBC - says "the biggest problem is that the BBC allowed Gary Lineker to have a social media profile".
So, what about ALL the other BBC employees and there are quite a few of them, that have social media profiles?
Former BBC hack, Mosey then twists the knife into LIneker:
"And if you're the highest paid presenter in the BBC, I think it's difficult to be starting to opine on anything that comes into your head as a former footballer, when you also have this BBC hat you're wearing," he tells BBC 5 Live."
"anything that comes into your head"? So Lineker is condemned for being a "former footballer" who dares to have opinions other than those about football!
My favorite person on earth is a BBC employee with a courageous social media presence, and I’m worried about her. We need to have her back, somehow. (Hint: pretty photo at the top)
It’s almost as if he were a woman with an opinion 🙄
Hah! Yes, precisely.
https://mintpressnews.com
World renowned football commentator, Gary Lineker, has been forced out of the BBC by Israel
After some 26 years on air, the former footballer turned commentator, was forced to step down from his roll at the BBC for speaking out in favour of Palestinian human rights. In response, the Israel Lobby ran an aggressive campaign to have him fired. As usual, it was claimed he had been anti-Semitic, with no evidence at all. Due to the obvious sway of the Israel Lobby over the BBC, like it has over the British government, Lineker had no chance standing up to one of the most powerful lobby forces in the country.
It wasn’t Lneker’s political opinions about what truly a genocide; it was deployment of ancient antisemitic imagery comparing Jews to rats. Just like the Nazis. If you have no problem with that I don’t know what to say.
Well I haven't seen the Instagram post, so I can't comment on it specifically but it doesn't detract from the mass slaughter and deliberate starvation Israel is carrying out on largely, Palestinian children. And how do you respond to this?
Former Israeli Likud Knesset member and current leader of the Zehut party, Moshe Feiglin, openly called for the genocide of the Palestinian people in a recent statement to Israeli Channel 14.
Feiglin had previously justified the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza by paraphrasing Adolf Hitler, “As Hitler said, ‘I cannot live if one Jew is left.’ We can’t live here if one Islamo-Nazi remains in Gaza.”
The invocation of Nazi terminology reflects Feiglin’s long-standing advocacy for “turning Gaza into Jaffa”, a reference to the Palestinian city occupied and ethnically cleansed by “Israel.”
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He also suggested cutting off electricity and water to Gaza’s urban centers while shelling “all civilian and military infrastructure down to their foundations.”
So you think Nazi propaganda is an acceptable way to protest the genocide? I think it’s possible to be anti Israel and now lower yourself to such standards. It also makes Hamas look like heroes. Murdering babies and mutilating vaginas isn’t so hot either. So when Arabs are depicted as being dirty greasy, blood-thirst animals I assume you’re okay with that? Also there are horrible racists on both sides of this issue.
Nazi propaganda? Those the words of an Israeli paraphrasing a Nazi! I don't know where you're coming from. Who is talking about depicting Arabs in that way? Not me. I think you need to read Feiglin's words more closely. Yes, there are racists all over the place but again, it's Israel blowing up babies, tens of thousands of babies. As to the Zionist propaganda about murdering babies, it's been exposed as nothing but a pack of lies, used to justify slaughtering Palestinians.
Oh my god, I didn’t realize I was communicating with a true believer. You’d have been a good Nazi. And by the way, plenty of babies were murdered by Hamas. Or will you swat away at the reality of the Bibas boys? Or all those cute videos Your pals in Hamas made during their massacring and raping and pogromming. That’s just Israeli hasbra , right? I’m sure you’ll declare all that, despite the mountains of proof, as pure propaganda. And I say this as someone who acknowledges the current genocide in Gaza. But such gray as opposed to black and white thinking is not up your alley
The BBC is profoundly evil just like much, if not most, of the Collective West.
The problem is that here in the UK a large number of people seem to get their main news and opinions from the BBC. I’ve been told by people, who in most respects appear to be quite intelligent, that the BBC is impartial, that they have to be impartial. I’m boycotting them but, inevitably, hear about their activities. Trying to tell people about what’s actually happening in Gaza and the Middle East in general has lead to me being told that I am being mislead by, well, they can’t provide an answer to that. Showing them articles and photos doesn’t seem to help. The photos have been doctored and the articles are lies. A number of them now have come out and said food should be allowed in but they still blame HAMAS for everything. I haven’t yet discovered what these people think should happen to a people if thousands of foreigners steal their land and murder them if they don’t go peacefully away someplace. It seems they shouldn’t have ever been there in the first place. However, since they are, why don’t they just leave without a fuss. I said to one idiot, what would you do and he didn’t answer and just swore at me. It seems Arabs are evil. All Arabs including Palestinians. Plus Islam is an evil Religion. I said some of them are Christians and was told that they can’t be proper Christians as they’re Arabs. So much for Christianity.
Thank you. I think you have the most effective response to the situation: ask “If you were Palestinian, what would you do?”
Never particularly liked Gary Lineker, but I do now. Great article Laura
Lineker the Lion👏👏👏
The BBC is not “politically neutral”. There is no such thing as unbiased news coverage, so I’m not suggesting the BBC is unusual in this respect. All news coverage is, by definition, determined by value judgements, some of which are political.
Not being politically neutral at the BBC manifests itself in two ways.
Firstly, it does not treat equally events in Israel/Palestine, their context or the public response in the UK to the genocide. The cumulative effect of this is its coverage de-emphasises Israel’s motivations and guilt.
Secondly, on the relatively few occasions it does confront events, it uses passive language that de-emphasises Israel’s actions and motivations while using active language that strongly implies Hamas, and the Palestinians generally, are guilty of violence.
In other words, the BBC is biased in favour of Israel, through both its use of language and the absence of context from much of its reporting. Gary Linekar’s departure is just a reflection of this bias. He’s being blamed for taking sides against a foreign country when, for instance, Andrew Neil escaped any criticism for explicitly supporting the Tories here in the UK at the last election while working for the Beeb as a current affairs journalist - a much more egregious example of bias.
It seems you can be biased towards the right but not towards the left at the BBC, but this is not unusual across the UK legacy media industry.
I'm sure majority of the UK opposes the genocide so it's very clear that our media, just like our politicians, believe we are of no consequence. Thank heavens for the impartial Laura K!
Wankers at state run media propaganda machine. 🇷🇺🇸🇩🇾🇪✊✊
All this stuff just , ahem, reaffirms my belief that there is no, ahem, influential Zionist/Israeli lobby. (daft emoji face thingy)
Lies mass murder theft lies more mass murder more theft even more lies with a heavy dose of even more mass murder and on and on and on...
Zionism is a vampire
Agree Mark… my opinion is that Israhell is a COLONY of vampires, not human, bloodthirsty, thriving on the misery of others.
Look into Satanyahoo’s eyes: what do you see? Nothing but black holes. Nothing behind them.
There is no soul in that inhuman being.
And never saying the word jew about the Jewish mechanized mass murderers ...
how very polite
We must be very respectful and delicate with our words about the mass murdering Jews.
thank you.
The US, UK, Germany, etc are majority non-Jewish and this genocide would be impossible without them. The problem is not Jews per se.